Friday, August 11, 2006
Rhedley's Holsters
Custom work on Guardian
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     Les Message Board Member Username: Les Post Number: 1 Registered: 07-2006 |
I recently bought a Guardian 32acp and want to have some work done on it, including the lessening the trigger pull (what do they charge and how much are they able to lessen the pull.) Did you use NAA Custom Shop? Does the throat need polishing? What about the carry package and the Gutter Snipe Sights. The gun shoots great! But I do need the trigger pull lessened, and I want to personalize it some. thanks, Les | ||
| Pocketgun Message Board Member Username: Pocketgun Post Number: 39 Registered: 08-2005 |
Welcome Les. Someone started a thread very similar to this just a few days ago that should answer your questions - look around a bit and you will find it. | ||
| Phydeaux88 Message Board Member Username: Phydeaux88 Post Number: 485 Registered: 11-2004 |
Here is a repeat of a post I made earlier in response to the same question:: you can put up with it until you run 500 or so rounds thru it, by then you will have worn the action smoother and you will have an Arnold Schwartzneger trigger finger. OR You can send it to Teddy Jacobson at http://actionsbyt.com/ get the "complete action job". He dropped my trigger pull from 15lbs to 8lbs. You really dont want much less on a DAO pistol. You will have to contact him first and ask if he will do your gun as he is semi-retired. It will cost you about $130, a little extra if you want the feed ramps polished and jeweled | ||
| Kevin_quinlan Message Board Member Username: Kevin_quinlan Post Number: 98 Registered: 12-2005 |
Teddy is the one for the trigger. The Custom Shop does GREAT work with the gutter snipe sights. All three of my Guardians have this done. | ||
| Teddy_jacobson Message Board Member Username: Teddy_jacobson Post Number: 65 Registered: 02-2003 |
I have worked on the actions of over 100 diffrerent models of handguns. Most are very crude inside including the smaller semi auto's... Most all handguns can be refined but the actual buyer is impressed with looks and features as photographed by experts in the magazines. These photos are often photographed using $8000.00 digital cameras in a lighted studio. These are simply marketing geniuses that know what sells. There is no need for new calibers but the marketing people know you will buy it rather than improve the internals of any handgun you own first. These are very smart people that are nothing but con men. ITS WHAT IS IN THE INSIDE THAT COUNTS. PEOPLE RAVE ABOUT THE SA "XD" BUT WHEN I ASK THEM IF THEY KNOW HOW TO QUICKLY CHANGE AN EXTRACTOR, THEY SAY NO. How would you like to be in the "SANDBOX" with a broken or chipped extractor and no way of replacing it. I have worked on countless Guardians and can get a superb trigger on them. The trouble with many factory people everywhere is that they think they are gun designers and when they look in their mirror they see JOHN MOSES BROWNING. Have a good day. Teddy www.actionsbyt.com 281 565 6977 | ||
| Les Message Board Member Username: Les Post Number: 2 Registered: 07-2006 |
Another question: Does the barrel of the Guardian need to be crowned? Advantage or disadvantage? What do you Think? Thanks for your input, Les | ||
| Hiflight Message Board Member Username: Hiflight Post Number: 40 Registered: 02-2006 |
Les... When I sent my G380 to Teddy for his custom action job, he put a very slight crown on the muzzle. Even a very slight imperfection to an uncrowned muzzle can affect accuracy. With such small guns, we can ill-afford to sacrifice any accuracy unnecessarily. | ||
| Scion Message Board Member Username: Scion Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2005 |
Teddy Jacobson said; "I have worked on countless Guardians and can get a superb trigger on them. The trouble with many factory people everywhere is that they think they are gun designers and when they look in their mirror they see JOHN MOSES BROWNING." Sir, why must you continually denigrate strangers when describing your own work. Just on the general principle of your pompous attitude, I would not allow you to handle one of my firearms. I wonder...Who do you see when you look in the mirror? | ||
| Phydeaux88 Message Board Member Username: Phydeaux88 Post Number: 486 Registered: 11-2004 |
Call 911 and get the fire extinguisher | ||
| Hiflight Message Board Member Username: Hiflight Post Number: 41 Registered: 02-2006 |
Whether or not one agrees with Teddy's comments in general, when he states that he does great trigger work, he is correct. My Guardian, after having several NAA custom options added and Teddy's action work, is truly an example of craftsmanship at its finest. | ||
| Scion Message Board Member Username: Scion Post Number: 24 Registered: 12-2005 |
Hiflight said; "Whether or not one agrees with Teddy's comments in general, when he states that he does great trigger work, he is correct. My Guardian, after having several NAA custom options added and Teddy's action work, is truly an example of craftsmanship at its finest." Hiflight, I don't dispute what you say re: quality. I wonder why with each post T.J. makes he finds it necessary to belittle someone else. There are other craftsmen in the world that are capable of remarkable precision with firearms. I know several, and never have I heard such arrogance flow from their mouths. They are quiet, humble, very experienced and admired by experts world wide. When I compare their gentle competence with T.J.'s "Only I, Me, Me" rants...well, as you see, It gets under my skin. My weakness. | ||
| Kevin_quinlan Message Board Member Username: Kevin_quinlan Post Number: 100 Registered: 12-2005 |
Hi Scion, Actually I prefer craftsmen to be proud of their work, and if you can do it, it ain't braging. I managed a race shop for many years, and now the service department of a Porsche Dealership. I hire those WHO KNOW THEY ARE GOOD, AND CAN BACK IT UP. The meek may inherit the earth, but the confident rule it now. My weekness. | ||
| Scion Message Board Member Username: Scion Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2005 |
Kevin, My point isn't confidence or even competence. My point is attitude. Do your mechanics complain, rant, belittle and denigrate other mechanics every time they open their mouth? I doubt it. What a horrible work environment that would be. Meek, by the way has nothing to do with this. I am refering to folks that need no rant to build their confidence. They get daily confirmation of their competence from their customers, and their customers are the war fighters, not simply CCW citizens like you and me. If the guy, T.J., wants to talk about his work...fine, talk guns and leave the personal B.S. out. He should know he is not the cat's meow in all quarters. If he wants to complain about other peoples work, then have the balls to name them...not lump "all factory workers" into the incompetent pile. Like I said...gets under my skin, 'cause I've seen the real deal and he ain't it. | ||
| Teddy_jacobson Message Board Member Username: Teddy_jacobson Post Number: 66 Registered: 02-2003 |
THIS IS FOR SCION: WHEN I LOOK IN A MIRROR I SEE A VERY TIRED OLE MAN THAT IS SICK OF LOOKING AT THE GARBAGE THAT THESE PEOPLE IN THE MAGAZINES AND FORUMS AND CHAT ROOMS RAVE ABOUT. You scion, have no clue what you are even talking about, you are not qualified to discuss refined handgun work with me, even if you saw it. you do not have to ever worry as i do not work for people like you. Do you think anyone in this country would spend 8 hours refining a guardian for $150.00 like I do, it just shows your ignorance. I do it cause I care about my customers and my pride of workmanship. I live with honor and integrity. As for why the Guardian can never be accurate = the real answer is the shallow rifling that is sub standard compared to the rifling in high priced handguns. Most manufacturers want to make things cheap for their profit margin, but these marketing snobs do not realize that people would pay top dollar for top quality. Most people and companies "OUTSOURCE" everything and you will never know who made your gun and or who worked on it. The factories use TEN DOLLAR AN HOUR EMPLOYEES TO REFINE YOUR LITTLE JEWEL, DO YOU THINK THESE PEOPLE AT THAT RATE CARE ABOUT YOU AND YOUR GUN ?? Case in point...the HK P7 M8 is the finest 9mm on the planet and is "SUPER" accurate right out of the box, and sadly it is no longer made but people are still paying $1250.00 for a P7 that is new when they can find it. I recentely showed some one one of my custom 1911 pistols that is made like a jeweled Rolex inside. It took me 90 hours of HAND WORK to make it. They asked me what it was worth and I told them while I am alive its worth $3500.00 but when I am dead it will cost $6000.00 to get it. BUT ITS NOT FOR SALE... So sadly SCION you are just another ignorant person that has no clue what they are talking about. Need a gunsmith try Briley, they work on commission only and I am sure they will spend a great deal of time refining your weapon. I pick my customers at this point in time and I treat them very well and I get less than a 1% return rate. Ask these other people what is the percentage of their returns for their product and their work, THEY WILL NEVER TELL YOU. Teddy www.actionsbyt.com www.truthaboutparts.blogspot.com 281 565 6977 | ||
| Rhedley Message Board Member Username: Rhedley Post Number: 300 Registered: 02-2003 |
Scion I see and agree with your point. | ||
| Heyjoe Message Board Member Username: Heyjoe Post Number: 32 Registered: 12-2005 |
I feel as if I have been here before. Great artists, musicians and craftsman are often not the easiest people in the world to deal with or to listen to. Its also true that they see things differently than we do, we see an unformed piece of leather for example and they see the design for a better holster in it. We look at a gun, they see where it can be improved. Personally I wouldnt care how opinionated or hard to get along with someone is in the industry if they can do an exceptional job on a gun that I need worked on. As long as they dont give me a hard time personally while they are doing it. | ||
| Scion Message Board Member Username: Scion Post Number: 26 Registered: 12-2005 |
T.J, said "...You scion, have no clue what you are even talking about, you are not qualified to discuss refined handgun work with me, even if you saw it..." I don't believe I mentioned or discussed refined handgun work. If you want to talk guns...fine, but personal attacks on strangers, such as myself, adds nothing to your ability or reputation. My complaint is that you can't write a paragraph without saying something negative about people you don't know. I live with, work with, go to church with, and socialize with, some of the finest firearm craftsmen in the world. There are other people in this world that have mastered their craft. Because you don't know them is no excuse to ignorantly comment on shoddy work or lack of standards. You are old enough to know better. Talk guns, talk triggers, talk techniques, but leave the personal attacks out... they serve no purpose, are boring and wrong. respectfully, Scion the Ignorant in Quantico | ||
| Michael Message Board Member Username: Michael Post Number: 42 Registered: 01-2003 |
Sounds to me like it is a deep seeded insecurity and no matter how good his work is subconsciously he has to degrade others to feel better about himself. Probably has nothing to do with firearms. Maybe as he gets older he is slowly losing his skills and is bitter about it. Of course I’m just guessing because I don’t know TJ and frankly don’t want to get to know him. | ||
| Kevin_quinlan Message Board Member Username: Kevin_quinlan Post Number: 101 Registered: 12-2005 |
I do think is is funny that nobody who has seen Teddy's work can criticize the quality. It is unmatched. At this point the only option is to take shots at his 'attitude.' If you need your pistol to defend your life you will be glad the quality is there. I have the feeling you won't be thinking about 'attitude.' I have only seen one of Rhedley's holsters. It looked like it was made by a 8 year old in crafts class. Are they all like that? Probably not. But he obviously let crap leave his shop at times. Has ANYONE ever seen a crap job by Teddy? I have never heard of one. Spend your money, and trust your life as you see fit. I do. | ||
| Hiflight Message Board Member Username: Hiflight Post Number: 43 Registered: 02-2006 |
I would like to think this is an NAA firearms forum, and not a quality of personality forum. Flaming each other only makes our forum look petty. | ||
| Rhedley Message Board Member Username: Rhedley Post Number: 301 Registered: 02-2003 |
" It looked like it was made by a 8 year old in crafts class. Are they all like that? Probably not." KQ __________________________________________ You Kevin Q, have no clue what you are even talking about, you are not qualified to discuss refined holster work with me" RJ ----------- a little "CUT and Paste" Job. Changed a couple of words.. | ||
| Sandy Message Board Member Username: Sandy Post Number: 55 Registered: 01-2003 |
Community - Pls. try to be positive and take the high road. Flames don't help nor contribute to this board. - Sandy |
