Saturday, February 25, 2006
ERH = ERIC HOWLAND - GA.
PLEASE NOTE:
Teddy Jacobson will no longer comment on the forum where these posted messages came from because in order to try and help teach a person with a sub standard mentality they must be willing to learn. I have exhausted all my efforts and will no longer try and educate these type of people so they do not get suckered in to spending their hard earned money on work that is not first rate, they have no one to blame but the person in the mirror. Common sense should dictate what I have explained in these threads but they are just trying to justify the money they have spent. It does not matter to me one bit. If a person like "ERH" knows so much about being a gunsmith why would he pay some one else to do the work he claims he is so very capable of and it is all BS. His "ELEVATOR" does not go up to the top floor. I have given up trying to help people like this.
A Way to Soften Trigger Pull on 380?
Message Board Ulflyer Message Board MemberUsername: UlflyerPost Number: 1Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 07:13 am:
I have both the 32acp and 380acp. The 380 trigger is considerably harder and, for me, uncomfortably hard after only a couple of mags. Anyone have any suggestions other than sending it to TJ. Don't love it enough to spend 2/3 of what it cost to have the trigger "fixed".
John_q Message Board MemberUsername: John_qPost Number: 11Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 07:49 am:
Ulflyer, You might look at Dane's post on the "Class Act" thread. That could account for differences in trigger pull between Guardians.
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 38Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 09:34 am:
Just a point of information. There is no way that the average person or gunsmith can refine a handgun like I do because I have spent the last 30 years learning how to do this. I have gone to other industries to find supplies in order to accomplish this, For example I do my internal jeweling using ceramic particles and this information is not available to anyone. My stippling is heads and shoulders above anyone elses as the stippling from the factory is not near as good as mine as they border their stippling with file lines that are crooked at times and they bead blast their stippling after its been stippled which ruins the initial texture of the stippling. I hate to burst your bubble but most of the true craftsmen of this world are old like me and or in nursing homes or cemetaries. The GUARDIAN is a very good handgun as I also own one. I think NAA is a superb co. and the owner Sandy Chislom is a first class guy. Thanks for reading my comments. Teddy www.actionsbyt.com www.actionsbyt.blogspot.com www.tacticalknives.blogspot.com www.commentsbyt.com www.truthaboutparts.blogspot.com www.tjofsugarland.blogspot.blogspot.com I hope I gave you the correct websites as have so many. You can always do a search on www.google.com on Teddy Jacobson and confirm my bloggers.
Bighanded Message Board MemberUsername: BighandedPost Number: 110Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:37 pm:
good to see you posting Teddy...always good to hear from you... I'm still waiting on my other handgun to arrive ( a police duty retirement) before I would feel good about being without one long enough to send it to you for Actions by T . I gotta admit though I'm kinda with some of the others on spending $150 plus shipping etc to modify what was for me a $300 gun...not that your work isn't worth it..this is not at all a question of your pricing..I'm always a strong proponent that quality work from the right hands is never a question of value...and from talking with you on the phone and reading your pages.. I've no doubt you'd do it right...but my comment or question is really to NAA ...when comparable guns to the 32ACP have such light trigger action..why in the world would the NAA, a product I consider to be the superior brand, make it so uncomfortable...its not the its a hard pull.. I'm not a whining wimp...but it does impact my ability to hit what I'm aiming at..granted...the real deal would likely find the gun at bellie range... but I can also imagine many scenarios where I might need to actually point the thing..and under duress, and when I factor that into my best range efforts.. I have to blame the trigger pull ...now my guess is...all I'm doing is making your argument for you...the gun is worthless compared to what it will be once you refine the action..so why carry a worthless piece of metal for $300 instead of a worthy life saver for $500?...but $500 starts to put me into other choices...quality compacts..larger cals...etc...with factory action that is quite nice....I'm just venting...but wanted you to know the general nature of the struggle..ok..there..stuck my nose into it...but I snore so badly already that I figure a poke or two won't hurt that bad...but seriously Teddy..just want to say thanks for being someone who'll stand in the watchtower and shout out some of the realities of the coming storm.
Kevin_quinlan Message Board MemberUsername: Kevin_quinlanPost Number: 39Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 02:44 pm:
Hi Teddy, I have purchased 3 Guardians, 2 .32's and a .380, in the last 6 months. They are GREAT pistols. You are correct that good Gunsmiths are VERY hard to find. I have been doing my homework and your name keeps poping up on numerous sites as a first class Gunsmith. I had N.A.A. do Gutter Snipe Sites, slide work, and frame stippling on two of them. I hope, after tax time, to get the third to you. For a 'car gun' or a 'throw in the pocket gun' some may not be able to justify the cost of custom work, but if the Guardian is something you plan to keep, and you appreciate the pride of quality work, there is always a way. Hope to talk to you soon. Kevin
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 39Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 04:47 pm:
Its not easy for a factory armorer to meet his or her deadlines and complete their work other than just an initial assembly of a factory handgun. I am not a general GUNSMITH, I am a TRIGGER SPECIALIST and refine handguns on over 100 different models. These factories can improve their products, and I am including all the companies but if you are complaining about $300. now, how can they increase their price and remain in business by hiring a real craftsman. You would not pay the added cost. My work is not for everyone, it is only for a select few that want the very best internal action that can be achieved. The average Gunsmith does not have a clue what to do. I now do limited work and will still help decent people that call me. SURE, ALL THESE COMPANIES CAN IMPROVE THEIR PRODUCT BUT IT MAY COST THEM SALES AND THEY ARE USUALLY TOLD WHAT TO DO BY THEIR MARKETING PEOPLE THAT ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO KEEP AND SAVE THEIR JOBS. The Guardian is a good semi auto, can it be improved ?? of course... I even have one of my own but I like my NAA MINI REVOLVER. Have a good day and thanks for reading my comments. Teddy www.actionsbyt.com
Bighanded Message Board MemberUsername: BighandedPost Number: 111Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 09:01 am:
thanks Teddy...you're absolutely right on all counts... and as always, your comments are so appreciated..in fact I go back to your board pretty regular, comparing your comments to current events...its good to have some folks that are "awake" out here and not afraid to speak their mind....grateful....ET
Phydeaux88 Message Board MemberUsername: Phydeaux88Post Number: 306Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 10:11 am:
Just my $.02 worth You can get a very nice well fitting hand gun that has your idea of desirable features in 3 ways. 1. Go to a gunsmith and have one custom built for you (Very hi $$$$) 2. Buy one of the limited production somewhat handmade pistols such as Rorbach (moderate $$ but may require customization to get all the features you want which makes it hi $$$) 3. Buy a well made production pistol, such as Guardian, and have it customized to get the refined handling characteristics and features you want (low initial $ customization will most likely bring it into the moderate $$ range) I chose #3 because it allowed me to have a well made handgun with all the features I want for less money than the other two options. As TJ said earlier production weapons will never reach the same level of refinement as the pistols described in option 2 because the extra cost required to do such refinement would drive the production cost and retail price up to equal the price of those limited production weapons. A wise man, my father, once told me "you can have it good or you can have it cheap but most of the time you cant have both". My life experience has shown him to be correct.
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 24Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 09:39 am:
Ulflyer - I asked Carl (specifically) to, and he (they) performed the following items. (Carl) repaired some FTE's/ FTF's; polished the feed ramp, stippled the front & rear straps, added a scalloped slide, and "Melted Down" the little pistol. He also highly polished all appointments including the SS hex head grip screws. Best of all - the trigger is now superb comparing before to after. My "New" used little pistol seems completely "Top Grade" now! I am thus far highly impressed & quite satisfied w/ what I see; & mind you I have a fairly "A.R. type eye for detail!!" Thanks very much to Karl and your collegues, and to NAA in general! (Costs are easily calculated) Also, turn around time was roughly 2 1/2 weeks. (erh)
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 49Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 08:11 am:
I am a trigger specialist. I AM NOT A GENERAL GUNSMITH... I work on over 100 different models of handguns. I am the only one in NORTH AMERICA that just does this and have for the past 25 years. I told Karl at the factory how to improve the Guardian, they are not listening because they just work there and just don't get it. They should not be using an "E" ring. They should be making grips out of G10 laminate. THEY SHOULD USE SNAP RINGS... They should be using a SINGLE flat wire recoil spring made out of Chrome Silicon wire, like the Glock pistols. Its all about money. YOU DO NOT CUT CROOKED FILE LINES TO BORDER YOUR STIPPLING AND YOU DO NOT BEAD BLAST STIPPLING AS YOU JUST RUIN THE GRIP YOU WANT WITH THE STIPPLING AND ON AND ON AND ON. AN ARMORER IS AN ARMORER IS AN ARMORER. I can not expect all of you to understand me, but many will. They know I care. I am not a gunsmith I am a trigger specialist. If ERH thinks this is superb work hes seen then he best not quit his day job. You tell me why you need sights on a gun that is for up close and personal work at 2 to 5 feet. You want to improve the Guardian use lands and grooves in the bore that are deeper and or a polygonal type bore like the HK P7 M8. SO WHAT IF THEY CHARGE MORE MONEY. I would pay the additional cost for one. You can not design by committee or by sales people that think they are another John M. Browning. Please do not take offense but many of you understand but there are still many that can not see the forrest for the trees. Larry Seecamp was right by not putting sights on his tiny 32 semi auto. His Seecamp is very poor internally. I like the Guardian and I own one but I like the mini revolver better. I removed the sights off my Guardian. If you look at your night sights on your Guardian see if they are banged on with a punch, this is very wrong. See if your front sight is pinned in a blind hole, this is very wrong, how will you get the pin out because the sight is on the barrel and the pin is in the barrel. So your eye for detail is questionable.... Have a good day. Teddy
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 26Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 09:50 am:
Teddy_jacobson - I'm not certain what has brought you to stoop & single me out, but I guess I can start off by NOT sending you my P226 for a trigger job; I actually had hoped to do so in the very near future although I can do a "Superb" trigger myself just don't have the time anymore. I see that your vast superiority and smugness carries on as always; by trying to be complimetary to the folks @ NAA, and apperantly by briefly speaking about my past, I somehow managed to insult you. For that I am sincerely appologetic. For this I do not appologize: "Pack Sand and Wiggle it - Jerk!" Have a good day yourself, erh
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 278Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 01:27 pm:
Erh I tryed to send you a PM, but it was not an option, so I will reply here ^^
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 281Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 07:01 am:
I would like to see Teddy Jacobson inspect a later issue of the LWS 32, or the LWS 380. There have been major changes made, Different Castings Vendor, Plus the new CNC machines. Come on now Teddy, be fair. To call Seecamps," very poor internally", is not accurate.
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 50Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 07:48 am:
RHEDLEY THANKYOU FOR YOUR INSITE AND COMMENTS REGARDING MY EVALUATIONS OF A HANDGUNS INTERNALS. It shows your intelligence without a doubt. DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU ARE QUALIFIED TO DISCUSS THIS AT MY LEVEL OF EXPERTISE. ????????? HOW MANY GUARDIANS ANS HOW MANY SEECAMPS HAVE YOU WORKED ON AS A PROFESSIONAL WITH MY DEGREE OF QUALIFICATIONS. I AM NOT TRYING TO INSULT ANYONE BUT "IT IS WHAT IT IS" JUST LOOK INTO THE CHAMBER OF A 32 CALIBER SEECAMP AND SEE HOW THEY FINISH IT AND YOU TELL ME WHY AS YOU SEEM TO KNOW SO MUCH. HOW MANY SEECAMPS HAVE YOU WORKED ON ??? AS FOR ERH, HIS REMARKS ABOUT ME BELONG ON MY BLOGGER WHERE I GET 1000 HITS PER DAY. IT JUST SHOWS HIS INTELLIGENCE. I HAVE CONFINED MY REMARKS TO THE DEGREE OF QUALITY AND TO MY ATTENTION TO DETAIL WHICH NEITHER OF YOU UNDERSTAND. I WILL LET MY CUSTOMERS SPEAK FOR ME ABOUT MY WORK AS THEY NOW UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH I HAVE REFINED AND IMPROVED EVERYTHING I HAVE EVER GOTTEN MY HANDS ON. IF I DO A SEARCH ON EITHER ONE OF YOU ON www.google.com WHAT WILL I FIND. WILL YOU PUT UP YOUR CORRECT NAME AND ADDRESS AND BE OPEN ABOUT THIS OR WILL YOU REMAIN A KLOSET KEYBOARD KOMMANDO. THIS IS NOTHING PERSONAL, THIS IS A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DEGREE OF EXCELLENCE AS WEBSTER DEFINES QUALITY. ITS SAD FOR ME TO SAY THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD NOT KNOW QUALITY IF IT WAS IN THEIR HAND. MOST OF THE CRAFTSMEN OF THIS WORLD NOW RESIDE IN CEMETARIES. WHY WOULD THE TAKE DOWN LATCH BE BREAKING ON A GUARDIAN ?? ASK YOURSELF... COULD IT BE THAT WHEN TAURUS MADE THIS RELEASE BUTTON THERE IS AN AIR BUBBLE IN THE CASTING. I AM FAIR AND HONEST WITH EVERYONE BUT IT BOTHERS ME TO SEE THESE "EXPOITS" THAT ARE CAUGHT IN A REVOLVING DOOR WITH NO EXIT. THEY ARE A LEGEND IN THEIR OWN MIND. HAVE A GOOD DAY.. I HIDE FROM NO ONE... Teddy www.actionsbyt.com www.actionsbyt.blogspot.com www.tacticalknives.blogspot.com www.commentsbyt.blogspot.com www.tjofsugarland.blogspot.com 281 565 6977
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 51Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 07:59 am:
I forgot to add my last and newest blogger which is www.truthaboutparts.blogspot.com Check it out. Thankyou, Teddy
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 34Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 09:16 am:
Teddy_jacobson - I don't want to loose my cool; but you DO push it..! Sorry; I can't take it..! KISS MY ASS, YOU POMPOUS OLD F_CKER..! By the way, how's the "Sand Packin' & Wiggling!?" To the rest of you out there; sorry for my momentary lapse of manners; it does not happen often I assure you.. Have a nice day, (erh)
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 52Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 09:45 am:
ERH, THANKYOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. I am sure you will gain the trust of people that want you to work on their gun. At least have the courage to put up your real name and address so we can all remember you as the expert you are in BS. I will surely copy and paste your thoughtful comments for my blogger. HAVE A GOOD DAY... Regards, Teddy
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 282Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 11:08 am:
Mr, Jacobson I simply suggested you evaluate a newer model of Seecamp to enable you to more fairly judge the little pistol. You seem to be easily excitable over the mere thought of someone questioning your "EXPERTIZE". If you choose to reply either here or by Email, please try to be be a little less,........well, a little less "Teddy." Regards RJ=
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 35Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 11:16 am:
Teddy_jacobson - By all means cut & paste my comments wherever you like. I guess before all this got out of hand I should have mearly stated in my opinion that; "I believe that regardless of the talent that you likely possess, it is in absolutely the poorest taste & and the most "No - class" I've ever seen, for you "A REGULAR PATRON & MEMBER of this board",(not to mention the other boards where mearly the mention of your name gets folks permenantly barred!) to come on and praise yourself, and rudely dismiss quite good & talented factory work as crude & substandard!! This is just plain arrogant, rude, & frankly B.S.!! Anyway, I still think you're a Jerk; maybe it's just me... Screw you... I've had enough; I'm takin' my Ball & going home for now... Post THAT on your "Blog" along w/ your "Sand Packin' & Wiggling"! Get a life & "Sprout" some form "Class" ** I DID NOT say "Just stay an ASS"! Have a nice day, (erh)
Kevin_quinlan Message Board MemberUsername: Kevin_quinlanPost Number: 44Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 02:20 pm:
Hi Teddy, I am going to get some trigger work done on at least one of my three Guardians soon. Your expertise is based on talent, and experience. Your work I have seen, and it is indeed first class. It appears that the two above " Gunshop Commandos" aptitude are with a keyboard. Call me a "pompous old f#*k" also but when I spend my money it will go to someone with a proven track record, not a "keyboard commando." Hope to talk to you soon. Kevin
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 283Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 03:03 pm:
For once, I agree with you Kevin, Teddy J can lighten & smooth a trigger pull. He has talent, but his demeanor is sorely lacking. If you Will notice, I never implied his work was lacking.. only his dated comments about LWS products. Let's not resort to name calling..
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 36Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 03:34 pm:
I'm still trying to understand whats wrong with what merely started as a compliment or two for Carl & the others @NAA's Custom Shop!? I guess I am still an amature as you stated - I don't know why you would say such a thing anyway 'case I don't know you... (I only have 20+ years full time, or between real world tactical & defensive firearms training & tuning training sessions (National & International), or just privately involved with fine Firearms work.) This BS IS NOT ABOUT ME; I'm not trying to drum up business, or make friends either... truthfully though I'd rather that than have pissin' contests online... but whatever... I just though my reality check was as good as anyone's. Keyboard Commando No; I'm more of a "Keyboard Cub Scout" - I still type w/ 2 fingers! Anyway, K.Q. I'm certain that your beloved "Grand Master TJ" WILL do a nice job for you, in fact I've never said anything to anyone to the contrary. (This whole rediculous thing started out as a compliment to Carl @ NAA anyway, which is why this is all so damn absurd! Carl - You did nice work for me and I appreciate it..! There, I said it again, and still mean it!) One of many great thing's about us being American, is that we can pick & choose as we feel fit! I just will not (but until VERY recently HAD planned to!) send ANY of MY handguns to TJ. Spend whatever, wherever, & wherever you want! It's your money, and your nerves that you have to deal with! I still don't get how I got here anyway; we ARE (at least I thought we were) talking about "instinctive/ reactive type/ defensive pocket handguns here anyway, not precision tactical or competition guns"...I dunno; I'm takin' my Ball home again now..! Have a nice day, and best regards. Mr. Hedley, you are absolutely right - I was wrong; I believe I started the name calling; I'll try to keep it in check as a sign of respect to you and the rest out there. Regards, & peace...?! (erh)
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 53Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 05:18 pm:
I DO NOT CALL PEOPLE FOUR LETTER NAMES IN WRITING. IN A PRIVATE CONVERSATION MAYBE I MIGHT TELL YOU HOW I FEEL BUT NEVER IN OR ON A PUBLIC FORUM OR CHAT ROOM. I HAVE BEEN RAISED BETTER THAN THAT. I DISECTED AND DISCUSSED ISSUES THAT WERE WRONG REGARDLESS OF WHO DID IT AND AT WHAT FACTORY. NO ONE IN HIS OR HER RIGHT MIND PUTS A ROLL PIN IN A BLIND HOLE IN THE FRONT SIGHT WHERE YOU CAN NOT GET IT OUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SIGHT IS ON A BARREL. NO ONE SHOULD BE BANGING IN TRITIUM SIGHTS.... PERIOD... ASK ANY OF THE TRITIUM SIGHT MANUFACTURERS LIKE MEPROLIGHT, WHICH IS OWNED BY KIMBER, EVEN THEIR INSTRUCTIONS CLEARLY TELL YOU NOT TO BANG ON THEIR SIGHTS DURING INSTALLATION. ALL YOU ARE DOING IS DEGRADING THE LIFE OF THE TRITIUM GLASS VIAL. IN THE CASE OF TRIJICON THEY USE AN ALUMINUM VIAL. I NEVER STARTED NAME CALLING, WE HAVE MR. EHK OR EHR OR EBR OR WHATEVER HIS NAME IS TO THANK FOR THAT. HIS TELLING ALL OF US HOW THIS WORK HE LOOKED AT WAS SO GREAT, HE JUST DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT GOOD WORK SHOULD BE AND ITS NOT HIS FAULT HE JUST DOES NOT KNOW. I ONLY RESENT THE FOUR LETTER NAMES HES USED AS I WOULD NOT EVER LOWER MYSELF. NO ONE HERE REALLY KNOWS HOW MUCH I HAVE TRIED TO IMPROVE THE GUARDIAN. I REALLY LIKE THIS PISTOL BUT IT CAN BE MADE EVEN BETTER. THAT IS WHAT STARTED ALL THIS FUSS AS MR. ERE KEPT TALKING ABOUT WORK HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE THIS IS WAY ABOVE HIM. NOW HE CAN CALL ME MORE NAMES. NO ONE SHOULD GO TO THE TROUBLE OF STIPPLING A FRONT OR BACK STRAP TO CREAT A BETTER GRIP OF MEDIUM TYPE SANDPAPER BY STIPPLING AND THEN CUT CROOKED FILE LINES ON IT TO BORDER IT AND TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THEY COME ALONG AND BEAD BLAST IT AND DESTROY THE VERY TEXTURE THEY WANTED TO ACHIEVE. BUT OF COURSE HOW WOULD MR. EWE UNDERSTAND THIS. NOW WE GET TO TALK ABOUT THIS "E" RING WHICH KEEPS BREAKING. NOW NONE OF YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE RESEARCHED THIS IN DETAIL AND SENT CARL ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE TO BUY SNAP RINGS. OF COURSE I CAN NOT EXPECT MR. EEX TO KNOW ALL THIS. WE CAN NOW TALK ABOUT THE G10 LAMINATE THAT I RESEARCHED AND SENT TO THE FACTORY SO THAT THEY WOULD KNOW WHERE TO BUY THIS VERY SUPERIOR PRODUCT FOR THE GRIPS FOR THE GUARDIAN. I HAVE HONESTLY TRIED MY VERY BEST TO HELP THE FACTORY ABOUT MANY PROBLEMS THAT CAN EASILY BE RESOLVED BUT IT COST MONEY, BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER ANY GUN COMING BACK TO THE FACTORY THAT IN ITSELF BECOMES AN ECONOMIC LOSER. SO MR. EEP HAS NO EARTHLY IDEA HOW HARD I HAVE TRIED TO HELP THESE PEOPLE AT THE FACTORY AND I AM PERSUING THE MANUFACTURE OF SUPERIOR RECOIL SPRINGS FOR THE GUARDIAN THAT IS GOING TO BE MADE OUT OF CHROME SILCON WIRE, AND ALSO A TRIGGER RETURN SPRING THAT WILL NOT BREAK, AND IF YOU DOUBT MY SINCERITY CALL MARC AT ISMI 800 773 1940. HE IS THE PERSON THAT IS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE SOLD INDEPENDENTLY OF THE FACTORY. I HAVE NOT EVEN TALKED IN DETAIL ABOUT THE TRIGGER RETURN SPRING AND THE TAKE DOWN LATCH. OR THE SOFT FIRING PIN, THAT MUSHROOMS AT THE REAR. I HAVE SAID ENOUGH, AND I DO LIKE THE OWNER AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE AT NORTH AMERICAN ARMS. MY INTENTIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HONORABLE AND TRUTHFUL BUT I RESENT NO BODIES LIKE MR. EEE CALLING ME NAMES. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR READING MY COMMENTS AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. Teddy www.actionsbyt.com www.actionsbyt.blogspot.com 281 565 6977
Seecamp Message Board MemberUsername: SeecampPost Number: 3Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 06:05 pm:
"I AM NOT TRYING TO INSULT ANYONE BUT "IT IS WHAT IT IS" JUST LOOK INTO THE CHAMBER OF A 32 CALIBER SEECAMP AND SEE HOW THEY FINISH IT AND YOU TELL ME WHY AS YOU SEEM TO KNOW SO MUCH. HOW MANY SEECAMPS HAVE YOU WORKED ON ???" I think the question RJ was indirectly asking was how many have you worked on? I dislike intruding here because I promised myself I would not post again on forums other than my own, but I'd just like to point out that a rough chamber is part of the LWS design. Without a rough chamber the small .380 we make would be impossible. Our pistol is a retarded blowback as differentiated from a straight blowback. If we made a straight blowback the weight of our pistols would be heavier. Criticising us for our chamber finish is kind of like criticising the 1911 for loosely mounting the barrel to the frame by way of a link instead of firmly attaching it to the frame. It's part of the design The roughness of the chamber compensates for the lack of slide mass. When a round is fired the case expands into an anular ring. When pressure subsides the case resumes some of its original shape and is ejected. Ammunition fired from our pistols is therefore not good for reloads. The cases have been stretched and occasionally are bulged at the corresponding hollowed out area in the chamber. This system is very old. There is literature on it including information put out by us. Apparently it is something you missed reading. None of us can know everything. I know people who have dealt with Ken Friel and I have heard nothing but good things about him regarding his firearms knowledge and competency. I truly expect that the work done at the NAA custom shop is everything advertised. NAA enthusiasts have their following. We have ours. I do not presume to say our customers are smarter or better informed than NAA customers. Some people like Coke, some people like Pepsi. I apologize for the intrusion here but I think the chamber statement needed to be addressed.
Hiflight Message Board MemberUsername: HiflightPost Number: 9Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 07:44 pm:
Lack of manners, tact, and respect for another individual's point of view will always remove that individual from my consideration of their services regardless of their "Expertize". Quality of workmanship, no matter how expert cannot, to me, offset such exhibitions of public arrogance and lack of tolerance directed towards other members of a close community such as we enjoy.
Nicole Message Board MemberUsername: NicolePost Number: 648Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 09:41 pm:
I like both NAA and Seecamp, for different reasons. I can't afford anyones custom work. I drink Mountain Dew and don't care who knows it Back to the original question, what to do with a heavy trigger without spending more money. Get used to it. I promise I didn't say that to be flip. I said it because that's what I did with my 3 Guardians. Sure, I wish the triggers were lighter, they aren't. I now find that I am better on a DA trigger pull than a SA trigger pull. I guess I concentrate more. Also, I'm more comfortable carrying a heavy trigger. I did, however, just order a single action XD 45acp so maybe I'll get used to a lighter trigger as well. Seriously, build some muscle and muscle memory in that trigger finger and it will be less of an issue.
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 37Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 09:56 pm:
Teddy_jacobson - I now am having doubts as to why I had my "Laps in Reason"; I consider myself an honorable man and want to extend an appology for "MY lack of class". Please except it for what it is, and I would gladly knock it off right here and now. I am mainly quite sincere & and offer a "cyber handshake" in a show of good faith & truce and promise not to "Squeeze you too hard" - I Don't want to hurt the hand of a "The worlds Premier Firearms Craftsman of course!" (I'll admit I really want to barf right now, but I'm attempting w/ all my might to regain a lil' dignity; thus I'll refrain, & restrain as best I can!) TJ - I STILL think you're an unparralleled egotist, but maybe thats just me... (See, no 4 letter words..!) Also, as a side note, what sights was I talking about^^?; I have non on my NAA's..?!) RJ, and everyone up there^^, you all (As do I..) have, and have made good points, Hiflight says alot, and Nicole got us back on track; hopefully T_j can let this stuff go for a bit; how's 'bout it? Have a nice day, (erh) - Eric Howland - GA.
Peter Message Board MemberUsername: PeterPost Number: 6Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 07:55 am:
I agree with Nicole that it's possible to get used to the heavy trigger pull. I keep a large spring clamp (the kind used in wood working) in my car and squeeze it repeatedly while I'm driving. This has increased my hand strength, which in turn helps compensate for the trigger pull. Also, about 100 squeezes of the trigger a day (with a snap cap in place) has helped my trigger control and seems to have smoothed out the action of the gun a little. Just my two cents worth.
Sassi Message Board MemberUsername: SassiPost Number: 24Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 08:08 am:
I have truly enjoyed the messages above. I sat here learned and laughed throughout the entire dialogue. It sounded like a bunch of old wise talented gunmen sitting around a camp fire BSing on what gun was best and who had the best set of "files" to make em better. The dialogues also settled my interest in small semi's. I was seriously considering buying the 32 NAA model. If NAA and others know how to fix or improve these problems and just "look the other way" cause it might possibly cost us a few more bucks, thus causing new buyers to have to go to these "knowledge experts" to get a gun that shoots smooth, then that tells me that maybe I just ought to stick with the wheel guns.
Nicole Message Board MemberUsername: NicolePost Number: 651Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 08:22 am:
Sassi, I have the 32NAA version. I love it. Shoots great, feeds beautifully, loads of fun, and really easy to field strip. When I first got it, I sometimes had to put my weak hand finger on top of my trigger finger to get the thing to fire! I don't have to do that anymore. I don't even notice it unless I'm firing it alot, certainly more than I would be in a defensive situation. I just didn't carry it till I got used to it.
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 54Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 09:05 am:
Thanks for all you nice comments. I will no longer have any more to say about improving your handguns regardless of who makes them. I have tried to point out the very obvious flaws that I can easily see and most of you can not. I HAVE TRIED TO HELP YOU FOR THE LAST TIME. Every factory knows they have degraded their product for Benjamin Franklin. Its really none of my business because I only do limited work at this time for select people that go in harms way. ALWAYS REMEMBER THERE IS NO EJECTOR IN THESE SEMI AUTO MOUSE GUNS. As for the Seecamp being gouged in the chamber, I certainly know about why they do it but its done very crudly and by an amateur armorer. I have worked on about 35 to 50 Seecamps, I used to own one but if you saw the internals from my eyes you would under stand, you do not know what quality is, that is not your fault. We live in a world of throw away products and not many care anymore. Soon you will be able to buy your favorite WINCHESTER that is MADE IN CHINA. I hope you continue to buy your favorite Guardian and or Seecamp. I certainly do not care and I will only help those that are decent and honorable. Point of Note to clarify, I think I originally sent Carl information on MICARTA for grips that comes in all colors. It does not matter, they as all people will do what they want. All companies lose when ever a gun is returned for repair on warranty, shipping costs are sky high... when they do this their profits go down to nothing. I will no longer post here and try to educate you, those that know me can call me and they already know I will always help them as I did in the past. Most of you do not want to learn because you not only want to justify your purchase and the money you have already spend. To learn more you will have to read my bloggers. It seems those that complain about refining the cost of a Guardian sure seem to find enough money to buy two or three Guardians. I will go a step further and say we have already lost the industrial power of our country and the very worst is yet to come. Have a good day. Teddy Jacobson - Pistolsmith
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 40Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 09:28 am:
"Rock-a-Bye Teddy..." (erh)
Nicole Message Board MemberUsername: NicolePost Number: 652Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 09:58 am:
Teddy, I have always enjoyed reading your information and I read your blog when I have time. I have been trying to re-find where you wrote about sealing primers. I really wish the factory would have listened to you about colored grips, I believe I asked for some in the past. I am not mechanically- inclined and am here to learn. I also have not complained about the cost of refining a Guardian, I'm sure it is well worth it. I would love to have you work on one of mine but in my case the student loan people insist on getting their money every month. I only buy more guns when I find a very good deal or see a paticular need for a different gun. For instance, higher capacity or dedicated car gun. I also agree that it is ridiculous that America can't or won't make the world's best products, and it will get worse. I hear China is about ready to hit America with cheap, well-made cars! At any rate, I still read your blogs and hope you don't really leave here. Nicole
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 284Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 10:26 am:
Sassi Don't give up , the Curtain of Negativity here is about over, if the more recent post of TJ holds true. NAA, and the LWS company offer wonderful products. Both give excellent after sale service ! There are very knowledgeable people at NAA, as well as LW Seecamp. You were being fed some prejudiced information here. Any firearm manufactured, is a conglomeration of mechanical principals. Most of the time, it is nothing really new, all just re-application of proven methods, sometimes the Manufacturers just more "Right" than others. The LW Seecamp and the North American Arms products are a good examples...
Georgeh Message Board MemberUsername: GeorgehPost Number: 2485Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 11:52 am:
I had Teddy work on two of my guns. I found his work to be truly world class. Why can't we share our opinions without getting nasty. I don't want to see anyone stop posting.
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 41Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 12:42 pm:
Georgeh - I have to concur... Teddy: - I promise that I am now 100% "Over -It..; and didn't intend for all this, particularly running "ANYONE off" the board. Please except my cincere appologies and lets get back to reality. If for nothing more than the sake of the OTHERS on this board that WANT your input; by all means please don't stop giving them your valuable info; just please TRY to "Tune Down" just a little if able; I realize it's not my place to ask that of you, but I think it's only fair to try! I think we all realize that this was more than just a bit inflated, rediculous, and out-of-hand! Keep on keepin' on.. Have a nice day all, erh
Kenneth Message Board MemberUsername: KennethPost Number: 68Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 07:28 pm:
Teddy did his work on my NAA32. When I got it back it was as if he returned to me a different pistol. The action is smooth, tight and at least half of the original pull. As I stated in a post just after receiving my pistol back from Teddy; he's more an artist than a smith. That said, I must comment on Erh's nastiness. The flamming, foul, invectives launched by Erh are nothing less than repulsive and I do not beleive that it was a "momentary lapse of manners" but rather how the poster is. Teddy Jacobson has been a valued poster her for some years and I would certainly hope Teddy continues to post here and is not put off by a noisome fool who chooses to insult someone who knows more than he.
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 43Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 09:53 pm:
Kenneth - If I were in your shoes I'm certain I'd feel, and say the same. I for one, still DO NOT HAVE TO LIKE ANYONE I THINK IS A JERK! (Not directed at you..!) That having been said; you, and if there ARE any others out their in addition to you, that have been offended do not/ did not deserve to be subjected to my rantings... Sorry about that; truly! I hope in time you, and everyone else who may agree with your point of view, come to know me as just some other American "Shmuck" that has his God & Nations given right to his opinions and expressions, not to mention the right to have a bad day or three... No one deserves a bunch of "Crud" on ANY of these MOST enjoyable Boards, even the one's "Slingin' it by the Bucket full!" You all out there can likely admit (at least to yourselves) that EVERYONE gets nasty from time to time. The difference is, that some people can honestly back up & re-group... I hope to prove myself as one of the latter. Again, and FOR THE LAST TIME! Teddy_jacobson - I may not like the way you represent or elevate yourself, but for the sake of those that give a hoot what you have to say; "Say what you will; some folks out there can apparently swallow it up whole; all the power to 'em and to you as well..! So don't fall into the ranks of the poor "Shmucks" that CAN'T regroup... and get back to good stuff. Peace to you, and all of yours. I, along with SO many others "Fought for your right to do this, or that, or whatever you choose, so enjoy it for Pete's sake..! Have a nice day, (erh)
G34 Message Board MemberUsername: G34Post Number: 1Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 01:19 am:
Wow, I make my first return trip here after a couple years away, just thinking about picking up a guardian soon, so I thought I'd check in and see what's new. The first post I read tells me nothing has changed here, I can't believe some of you are giving a living legend like TJ a hard time. You should feel priveleged having him here, instead you cuss him and run him off. My first post will be my last, Teddy you just keep doing your thing, some folks out here appreciate you buddy!!!! (sometimes a bit of arrogance goes along with brilliance!). Some of you REALLY ought to feel ashamed. BTW, now ya'll can rip me all you want and feel assured I won't even be back to read it, I have more important things to occupy my time than this childish B.S.
Kevin_quinlan Message Board MemberUsername: Kevin_quinlanPost Number: 45Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 05:56 am:
Hi ERH, See if you say "Sorry for the rantings" at that point you STOP RANTING. You however continue to babble. If it will make you happy, and get you to shut the F up, we will all agree that ERH is: #1 A genius. #2 Invented the wheel. #3 Forgot more about firearms than John Moses Browning ever knew. #4 The only reason NOBODY knows his work is because of his modesty. Happy now? Kevin
Sopsax Message Board MemberUsername: SopsaxPost Number: 220Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 10:44 am:
ERH: I tried to send you a private message (civil AND supportive) but your profile said you did not accept private messages. sopsax
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 285Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 10:53 am:
To understand what this back and forth fuss is all about you must go back to Erh's post on 2/20 and READ. "Erh" had nothing but praise for "North American Arms" and their Custom Shop.. Then read "Teddy's post" of 2/21.....this post is the problem here. A few members here, fail to see the self proclaimed " World Famous Pistolsmith '' as being abusive of the Host of this message board, which is "North American Arms", and to anyone that thinks NAA does a great job in the "Custom shop". I feel the " World Famous Pistolsmith '' should work on his "People skills", and allow others to have an opinion with out being insulted here on this open message board. Having said this, I would like to add, the " World Famous Pistolsmith '' most likely does very good "Trigger Work." I have not denied this. But I think I shall never know first hand, of his skills, for reasons you can possibly imagine.
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 44Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 11:42 am:
It's true.. And thank you for your "level-headedness" Mr. Hedley and you others out there that get it..! Best regards, (erh)
Hiflight Message Board MemberUsername: HiflightPost Number: 10Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 11:44 am:
Well-spoken, Rhedley!
Teddy Jacobson will no longer comment on the forum where these posted messages came from because in order to try and help teach a person with a sub standard mentality they must be willing to learn. I have exhausted all my efforts and will no longer try and educate these type of people so they do not get suckered in to spending their hard earned money on work that is not first rate, they have no one to blame but the person in the mirror. Common sense should dictate what I have explained in these threads but they are just trying to justify the money they have spent. It does not matter to me one bit. If a person like "ERH" knows so much about being a gunsmith why would he pay some one else to do the work he claims he is so very capable of and it is all BS. His "ELEVATOR" does not go up to the top floor. I have given up trying to help people like this.
A Way to Soften Trigger Pull on 380?
Message Board Ulflyer Message Board MemberUsername: UlflyerPost Number: 1Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 07:13 am:
I have both the 32acp and 380acp. The 380 trigger is considerably harder and, for me, uncomfortably hard after only a couple of mags. Anyone have any suggestions other than sending it to TJ. Don't love it enough to spend 2/3 of what it cost to have the trigger "fixed".
John_q Message Board MemberUsername: John_qPost Number: 11Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 07:49 am:
Ulflyer, You might look at Dane's post on the "Class Act" thread. That could account for differences in trigger pull between Guardians.
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 38Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 09:34 am:
Just a point of information. There is no way that the average person or gunsmith can refine a handgun like I do because I have spent the last 30 years learning how to do this. I have gone to other industries to find supplies in order to accomplish this, For example I do my internal jeweling using ceramic particles and this information is not available to anyone. My stippling is heads and shoulders above anyone elses as the stippling from the factory is not near as good as mine as they border their stippling with file lines that are crooked at times and they bead blast their stippling after its been stippled which ruins the initial texture of the stippling. I hate to burst your bubble but most of the true craftsmen of this world are old like me and or in nursing homes or cemetaries. The GUARDIAN is a very good handgun as I also own one. I think NAA is a superb co. and the owner Sandy Chislom is a first class guy. Thanks for reading my comments. Teddy www.actionsbyt.com www.actionsbyt.blogspot.com www.tacticalknives.blogspot.com www.commentsbyt.com www.truthaboutparts.blogspot.com www.tjofsugarland.blogspot.blogspot.com I hope I gave you the correct websites as have so many. You can always do a search on www.google.com on Teddy Jacobson and confirm my bloggers.
Bighanded Message Board MemberUsername: BighandedPost Number: 110Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:37 pm:
good to see you posting Teddy...always good to hear from you... I'm still waiting on my other handgun to arrive ( a police duty retirement) before I would feel good about being without one long enough to send it to you for Actions by T . I gotta admit though I'm kinda with some of the others on spending $150 plus shipping etc to modify what was for me a $300 gun...not that your work isn't worth it..this is not at all a question of your pricing..I'm always a strong proponent that quality work from the right hands is never a question of value...and from talking with you on the phone and reading your pages.. I've no doubt you'd do it right...but my comment or question is really to NAA ...when comparable guns to the 32ACP have such light trigger action..why in the world would the NAA, a product I consider to be the superior brand, make it so uncomfortable...its not the its a hard pull.. I'm not a whining wimp...but it does impact my ability to hit what I'm aiming at..granted...the real deal would likely find the gun at bellie range... but I can also imagine many scenarios where I might need to actually point the thing..and under duress, and when I factor that into my best range efforts.. I have to blame the trigger pull ...now my guess is...all I'm doing is making your argument for you...the gun is worthless compared to what it will be once you refine the action..so why carry a worthless piece of metal for $300 instead of a worthy life saver for $500?...but $500 starts to put me into other choices...quality compacts..larger cals...etc...with factory action that is quite nice....I'm just venting...but wanted you to know the general nature of the struggle..ok..there..stuck my nose into it...but I snore so badly already that I figure a poke or two won't hurt that bad...but seriously Teddy..just want to say thanks for being someone who'll stand in the watchtower and shout out some of the realities of the coming storm.
Kevin_quinlan Message Board MemberUsername: Kevin_quinlanPost Number: 39Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 02:44 pm:
Hi Teddy, I have purchased 3 Guardians, 2 .32's and a .380, in the last 6 months. They are GREAT pistols. You are correct that good Gunsmiths are VERY hard to find. I have been doing my homework and your name keeps poping up on numerous sites as a first class Gunsmith. I had N.A.A. do Gutter Snipe Sites, slide work, and frame stippling on two of them. I hope, after tax time, to get the third to you. For a 'car gun' or a 'throw in the pocket gun' some may not be able to justify the cost of custom work, but if the Guardian is something you plan to keep, and you appreciate the pride of quality work, there is always a way. Hope to talk to you soon. Kevin
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 39Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Thursday, January 26, 2006 - 04:47 pm:
Its not easy for a factory armorer to meet his or her deadlines and complete their work other than just an initial assembly of a factory handgun. I am not a general GUNSMITH, I am a TRIGGER SPECIALIST and refine handguns on over 100 different models. These factories can improve their products, and I am including all the companies but if you are complaining about $300. now, how can they increase their price and remain in business by hiring a real craftsman. You would not pay the added cost. My work is not for everyone, it is only for a select few that want the very best internal action that can be achieved. The average Gunsmith does not have a clue what to do. I now do limited work and will still help decent people that call me. SURE, ALL THESE COMPANIES CAN IMPROVE THEIR PRODUCT BUT IT MAY COST THEM SALES AND THEY ARE USUALLY TOLD WHAT TO DO BY THEIR MARKETING PEOPLE THAT ARE SIMPLY TRYING TO KEEP AND SAVE THEIR JOBS. The Guardian is a good semi auto, can it be improved ?? of course... I even have one of my own but I like my NAA MINI REVOLVER. Have a good day and thanks for reading my comments. Teddy www.actionsbyt.com
Bighanded Message Board MemberUsername: BighandedPost Number: 111Registered: 07-2005
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 09:01 am:
thanks Teddy...you're absolutely right on all counts... and as always, your comments are so appreciated..in fact I go back to your board pretty regular, comparing your comments to current events...its good to have some folks that are "awake" out here and not afraid to speak their mind....grateful....ET
Phydeaux88 Message Board MemberUsername: Phydeaux88Post Number: 306Registered: 11-2004
Posted on Friday, January 27, 2006 - 10:11 am:
Just my $.02 worth You can get a very nice well fitting hand gun that has your idea of desirable features in 3 ways. 1. Go to a gunsmith and have one custom built for you (Very hi $$$$) 2. Buy one of the limited production somewhat handmade pistols such as Rorbach (moderate $$ but may require customization to get all the features you want which makes it hi $$$) 3. Buy a well made production pistol, such as Guardian, and have it customized to get the refined handling characteristics and features you want (low initial $ customization will most likely bring it into the moderate $$ range) I chose #3 because it allowed me to have a well made handgun with all the features I want for less money than the other two options. As TJ said earlier production weapons will never reach the same level of refinement as the pistols described in option 2 because the extra cost required to do such refinement would drive the production cost and retail price up to equal the price of those limited production weapons. A wise man, my father, once told me "you can have it good or you can have it cheap but most of the time you cant have both". My life experience has shown him to be correct.
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 24Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 09:39 am:
Ulflyer - I asked Carl (specifically) to, and he (they) performed the following items. (Carl) repaired some FTE's/ FTF's; polished the feed ramp, stippled the front & rear straps, added a scalloped slide, and "Melted Down" the little pistol. He also highly polished all appointments including the SS hex head grip screws. Best of all - the trigger is now superb comparing before to after. My "New" used little pistol seems completely "Top Grade" now! I am thus far highly impressed & quite satisfied w/ what I see; & mind you I have a fairly "A.R. type eye for detail!!" Thanks very much to Karl and your collegues, and to NAA in general! (Costs are easily calculated) Also, turn around time was roughly 2 1/2 weeks. (erh)
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 49Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 08:11 am:
I am a trigger specialist. I AM NOT A GENERAL GUNSMITH... I work on over 100 different models of handguns. I am the only one in NORTH AMERICA that just does this and have for the past 25 years. I told Karl at the factory how to improve the Guardian, they are not listening because they just work there and just don't get it. They should not be using an "E" ring. They should be making grips out of G10 laminate. THEY SHOULD USE SNAP RINGS... They should be using a SINGLE flat wire recoil spring made out of Chrome Silicon wire, like the Glock pistols. Its all about money. YOU DO NOT CUT CROOKED FILE LINES TO BORDER YOUR STIPPLING AND YOU DO NOT BEAD BLAST STIPPLING AS YOU JUST RUIN THE GRIP YOU WANT WITH THE STIPPLING AND ON AND ON AND ON. AN ARMORER IS AN ARMORER IS AN ARMORER. I can not expect all of you to understand me, but many will. They know I care. I am not a gunsmith I am a trigger specialist. If ERH thinks this is superb work hes seen then he best not quit his day job. You tell me why you need sights on a gun that is for up close and personal work at 2 to 5 feet. You want to improve the Guardian use lands and grooves in the bore that are deeper and or a polygonal type bore like the HK P7 M8. SO WHAT IF THEY CHARGE MORE MONEY. I would pay the additional cost for one. You can not design by committee or by sales people that think they are another John M. Browning. Please do not take offense but many of you understand but there are still many that can not see the forrest for the trees. Larry Seecamp was right by not putting sights on his tiny 32 semi auto. His Seecamp is very poor internally. I like the Guardian and I own one but I like the mini revolver better. I removed the sights off my Guardian. If you look at your night sights on your Guardian see if they are banged on with a punch, this is very wrong. See if your front sight is pinned in a blind hole, this is very wrong, how will you get the pin out because the sight is on the barrel and the pin is in the barrel. So your eye for detail is questionable.... Have a good day. Teddy
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 26Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 09:50 am:
Teddy_jacobson - I'm not certain what has brought you to stoop & single me out, but I guess I can start off by NOT sending you my P226 for a trigger job; I actually had hoped to do so in the very near future although I can do a "Superb" trigger myself just don't have the time anymore. I see that your vast superiority and smugness carries on as always; by trying to be complimetary to the folks @ NAA, and apperantly by briefly speaking about my past, I somehow managed to insult you. For that I am sincerely appologetic. For this I do not appologize: "Pack Sand and Wiggle it - Jerk!" Have a good day yourself, erh
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 278Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 01:27 pm:
Erh I tryed to send you a PM, but it was not an option, so I will reply here ^^
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 281Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 07:01 am:
I would like to see Teddy Jacobson inspect a later issue of the LWS 32, or the LWS 380. There have been major changes made, Different Castings Vendor, Plus the new CNC machines. Come on now Teddy, be fair. To call Seecamps," very poor internally", is not accurate.
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 50Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 07:48 am:
RHEDLEY THANKYOU FOR YOUR INSITE AND COMMENTS REGARDING MY EVALUATIONS OF A HANDGUNS INTERNALS. It shows your intelligence without a doubt. DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU ARE QUALIFIED TO DISCUSS THIS AT MY LEVEL OF EXPERTISE. ????????? HOW MANY GUARDIANS ANS HOW MANY SEECAMPS HAVE YOU WORKED ON AS A PROFESSIONAL WITH MY DEGREE OF QUALIFICATIONS. I AM NOT TRYING TO INSULT ANYONE BUT "IT IS WHAT IT IS" JUST LOOK INTO THE CHAMBER OF A 32 CALIBER SEECAMP AND SEE HOW THEY FINISH IT AND YOU TELL ME WHY AS YOU SEEM TO KNOW SO MUCH. HOW MANY SEECAMPS HAVE YOU WORKED ON ??? AS FOR ERH, HIS REMARKS ABOUT ME BELONG ON MY BLOGGER WHERE I GET 1000 HITS PER DAY. IT JUST SHOWS HIS INTELLIGENCE. I HAVE CONFINED MY REMARKS TO THE DEGREE OF QUALITY AND TO MY ATTENTION TO DETAIL WHICH NEITHER OF YOU UNDERSTAND. I WILL LET MY CUSTOMERS SPEAK FOR ME ABOUT MY WORK AS THEY NOW UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH I HAVE REFINED AND IMPROVED EVERYTHING I HAVE EVER GOTTEN MY HANDS ON. IF I DO A SEARCH ON EITHER ONE OF YOU ON www.google.com WHAT WILL I FIND. WILL YOU PUT UP YOUR CORRECT NAME AND ADDRESS AND BE OPEN ABOUT THIS OR WILL YOU REMAIN A KLOSET KEYBOARD KOMMANDO. THIS IS NOTHING PERSONAL, THIS IS A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DEGREE OF EXCELLENCE AS WEBSTER DEFINES QUALITY. ITS SAD FOR ME TO SAY THAT MOST PEOPLE WOULD NOT KNOW QUALITY IF IT WAS IN THEIR HAND. MOST OF THE CRAFTSMEN OF THIS WORLD NOW RESIDE IN CEMETARIES. WHY WOULD THE TAKE DOWN LATCH BE BREAKING ON A GUARDIAN ?? ASK YOURSELF... COULD IT BE THAT WHEN TAURUS MADE THIS RELEASE BUTTON THERE IS AN AIR BUBBLE IN THE CASTING. I AM FAIR AND HONEST WITH EVERYONE BUT IT BOTHERS ME TO SEE THESE "EXPOITS" THAT ARE CAUGHT IN A REVOLVING DOOR WITH NO EXIT. THEY ARE A LEGEND IN THEIR OWN MIND. HAVE A GOOD DAY.. I HIDE FROM NO ONE... Teddy www.actionsbyt.com www.actionsbyt.blogspot.com www.tacticalknives.blogspot.com www.commentsbyt.blogspot.com www.tjofsugarland.blogspot.com 281 565 6977
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 51Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 07:59 am:
I forgot to add my last and newest blogger which is www.truthaboutparts.blogspot.com Check it out. Thankyou, Teddy
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 34Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 09:16 am:
Teddy_jacobson - I don't want to loose my cool; but you DO push it..! Sorry; I can't take it..! KISS MY ASS, YOU POMPOUS OLD F_CKER..! By the way, how's the "Sand Packin' & Wiggling!?" To the rest of you out there; sorry for my momentary lapse of manners; it does not happen often I assure you.. Have a nice day, (erh)
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 52Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 09:45 am:
ERH, THANKYOU FOR YOUR KIND WORDS. I am sure you will gain the trust of people that want you to work on their gun. At least have the courage to put up your real name and address so we can all remember you as the expert you are in BS. I will surely copy and paste your thoughtful comments for my blogger. HAVE A GOOD DAY... Regards, Teddy
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 282Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 11:08 am:
Mr, Jacobson I simply suggested you evaluate a newer model of Seecamp to enable you to more fairly judge the little pistol. You seem to be easily excitable over the mere thought of someone questioning your "EXPERTIZE". If you choose to reply either here or by Email, please try to be be a little less,........well, a little less "Teddy." Regards RJ=
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 35Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 11:16 am:
Teddy_jacobson - By all means cut & paste my comments wherever you like. I guess before all this got out of hand I should have mearly stated in my opinion that; "I believe that regardless of the talent that you likely possess, it is in absolutely the poorest taste & and the most "No - class" I've ever seen, for you "A REGULAR PATRON & MEMBER of this board",(not to mention the other boards where mearly the mention of your name gets folks permenantly barred!) to come on and praise yourself, and rudely dismiss quite good & talented factory work as crude & substandard!! This is just plain arrogant, rude, & frankly B.S.!! Anyway, I still think you're a Jerk; maybe it's just me... Screw you... I've had enough; I'm takin' my Ball & going home for now... Post THAT on your "Blog" along w/ your "Sand Packin' & Wiggling"! Get a life & "Sprout" some form "Class" ** I DID NOT say "Just stay an ASS"! Have a nice day, (erh)
Kevin_quinlan Message Board MemberUsername: Kevin_quinlanPost Number: 44Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 02:20 pm:
Hi Teddy, I am going to get some trigger work done on at least one of my three Guardians soon. Your expertise is based on talent, and experience. Your work I have seen, and it is indeed first class. It appears that the two above " Gunshop Commandos" aptitude are with a keyboard. Call me a "pompous old f#*k" also but when I spend my money it will go to someone with a proven track record, not a "keyboard commando." Hope to talk to you soon. Kevin
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 283Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 03:03 pm:
For once, I agree with you Kevin, Teddy J can lighten & smooth a trigger pull. He has talent, but his demeanor is sorely lacking. If you Will notice, I never implied his work was lacking.. only his dated comments about LWS products. Let's not resort to name calling..
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 36Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 03:34 pm:
I'm still trying to understand whats wrong with what merely started as a compliment or two for Carl & the others @NAA's Custom Shop!? I guess I am still an amature as you stated - I don't know why you would say such a thing anyway 'case I don't know you... (I only have 20+ years full time, or between real world tactical & defensive firearms training & tuning training sessions (National & International), or just privately involved with fine Firearms work.) This BS IS NOT ABOUT ME; I'm not trying to drum up business, or make friends either... truthfully though I'd rather that than have pissin' contests online... but whatever... I just though my reality check was as good as anyone's. Keyboard Commando No; I'm more of a "Keyboard Cub Scout" - I still type w/ 2 fingers! Anyway, K.Q. I'm certain that your beloved "Grand Master TJ" WILL do a nice job for you, in fact I've never said anything to anyone to the contrary. (This whole rediculous thing started out as a compliment to Carl @ NAA anyway, which is why this is all so damn absurd! Carl - You did nice work for me and I appreciate it..! There, I said it again, and still mean it!) One of many great thing's about us being American, is that we can pick & choose as we feel fit! I just will not (but until VERY recently HAD planned to!) send ANY of MY handguns to TJ. Spend whatever, wherever, & wherever you want! It's your money, and your nerves that you have to deal with! I still don't get how I got here anyway; we ARE (at least I thought we were) talking about "instinctive/ reactive type/ defensive pocket handguns here anyway, not precision tactical or competition guns"...I dunno; I'm takin' my Ball home again now..! Have a nice day, and best regards. Mr. Hedley, you are absolutely right - I was wrong; I believe I started the name calling; I'll try to keep it in check as a sign of respect to you and the rest out there. Regards, & peace...?! (erh)
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 53Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 05:18 pm:
I DO NOT CALL PEOPLE FOUR LETTER NAMES IN WRITING. IN A PRIVATE CONVERSATION MAYBE I MIGHT TELL YOU HOW I FEEL BUT NEVER IN OR ON A PUBLIC FORUM OR CHAT ROOM. I HAVE BEEN RAISED BETTER THAN THAT. I DISECTED AND DISCUSSED ISSUES THAT WERE WRONG REGARDLESS OF WHO DID IT AND AT WHAT FACTORY. NO ONE IN HIS OR HER RIGHT MIND PUTS A ROLL PIN IN A BLIND HOLE IN THE FRONT SIGHT WHERE YOU CAN NOT GET IT OUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE SIGHT IS ON A BARREL. NO ONE SHOULD BE BANGING IN TRITIUM SIGHTS.... PERIOD... ASK ANY OF THE TRITIUM SIGHT MANUFACTURERS LIKE MEPROLIGHT, WHICH IS OWNED BY KIMBER, EVEN THEIR INSTRUCTIONS CLEARLY TELL YOU NOT TO BANG ON THEIR SIGHTS DURING INSTALLATION. ALL YOU ARE DOING IS DEGRADING THE LIFE OF THE TRITIUM GLASS VIAL. IN THE CASE OF TRIJICON THEY USE AN ALUMINUM VIAL. I NEVER STARTED NAME CALLING, WE HAVE MR. EHK OR EHR OR EBR OR WHATEVER HIS NAME IS TO THANK FOR THAT. HIS TELLING ALL OF US HOW THIS WORK HE LOOKED AT WAS SO GREAT, HE JUST DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT GOOD WORK SHOULD BE AND ITS NOT HIS FAULT HE JUST DOES NOT KNOW. I ONLY RESENT THE FOUR LETTER NAMES HES USED AS I WOULD NOT EVER LOWER MYSELF. NO ONE HERE REALLY KNOWS HOW MUCH I HAVE TRIED TO IMPROVE THE GUARDIAN. I REALLY LIKE THIS PISTOL BUT IT CAN BE MADE EVEN BETTER. THAT IS WHAT STARTED ALL THIS FUSS AS MR. ERE KEPT TALKING ABOUT WORK HE DID NOT UNDERSTAND, BECAUSE THIS IS WAY ABOVE HIM. NOW HE CAN CALL ME MORE NAMES. NO ONE SHOULD GO TO THE TROUBLE OF STIPPLING A FRONT OR BACK STRAP TO CREAT A BETTER GRIP OF MEDIUM TYPE SANDPAPER BY STIPPLING AND THEN CUT CROOKED FILE LINES ON IT TO BORDER IT AND TO ADD INSULT TO INJURY THEY COME ALONG AND BEAD BLAST IT AND DESTROY THE VERY TEXTURE THEY WANTED TO ACHIEVE. BUT OF COURSE HOW WOULD MR. EWE UNDERSTAND THIS. NOW WE GET TO TALK ABOUT THIS "E" RING WHICH KEEPS BREAKING. NOW NONE OF YOU KNOW THAT I HAVE RESEARCHED THIS IN DETAIL AND SENT CARL ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT WHERE TO BUY SNAP RINGS. OF COURSE I CAN NOT EXPECT MR. EEX TO KNOW ALL THIS. WE CAN NOW TALK ABOUT THE G10 LAMINATE THAT I RESEARCHED AND SENT TO THE FACTORY SO THAT THEY WOULD KNOW WHERE TO BUY THIS VERY SUPERIOR PRODUCT FOR THE GRIPS FOR THE GUARDIAN. I HAVE HONESTLY TRIED MY VERY BEST TO HELP THE FACTORY ABOUT MANY PROBLEMS THAT CAN EASILY BE RESOLVED BUT IT COST MONEY, BUT WHEN YOU CONSIDER ANY GUN COMING BACK TO THE FACTORY THAT IN ITSELF BECOMES AN ECONOMIC LOSER. SO MR. EEP HAS NO EARTHLY IDEA HOW HARD I HAVE TRIED TO HELP THESE PEOPLE AT THE FACTORY AND I AM PERSUING THE MANUFACTURE OF SUPERIOR RECOIL SPRINGS FOR THE GUARDIAN THAT IS GOING TO BE MADE OUT OF CHROME SILCON WIRE, AND ALSO A TRIGGER RETURN SPRING THAT WILL NOT BREAK, AND IF YOU DOUBT MY SINCERITY CALL MARC AT ISMI 800 773 1940. HE IS THE PERSON THAT IS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT, WHICH WILL BE SOLD INDEPENDENTLY OF THE FACTORY. I HAVE NOT EVEN TALKED IN DETAIL ABOUT THE TRIGGER RETURN SPRING AND THE TAKE DOWN LATCH. OR THE SOFT FIRING PIN, THAT MUSHROOMS AT THE REAR. I HAVE SAID ENOUGH, AND I DO LIKE THE OWNER AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE AT NORTH AMERICAN ARMS. MY INTENTIONS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN HONORABLE AND TRUTHFUL BUT I RESENT NO BODIES LIKE MR. EEE CALLING ME NAMES. THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR READING MY COMMENTS AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. Teddy www.actionsbyt.com www.actionsbyt.blogspot.com 281 565 6977
Seecamp Message Board MemberUsername: SeecampPost Number: 3Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 06:05 pm:
"I AM NOT TRYING TO INSULT ANYONE BUT "IT IS WHAT IT IS" JUST LOOK INTO THE CHAMBER OF A 32 CALIBER SEECAMP AND SEE HOW THEY FINISH IT AND YOU TELL ME WHY AS YOU SEEM TO KNOW SO MUCH. HOW MANY SEECAMPS HAVE YOU WORKED ON ???" I think the question RJ was indirectly asking was how many have you worked on? I dislike intruding here because I promised myself I would not post again on forums other than my own, but I'd just like to point out that a rough chamber is part of the LWS design. Without a rough chamber the small .380 we make would be impossible. Our pistol is a retarded blowback as differentiated from a straight blowback. If we made a straight blowback the weight of our pistols would be heavier. Criticising us for our chamber finish is kind of like criticising the 1911 for loosely mounting the barrel to the frame by way of a link instead of firmly attaching it to the frame. It's part of the design The roughness of the chamber compensates for the lack of slide mass. When a round is fired the case expands into an anular ring. When pressure subsides the case resumes some of its original shape and is ejected. Ammunition fired from our pistols is therefore not good for reloads. The cases have been stretched and occasionally are bulged at the corresponding hollowed out area in the chamber. This system is very old. There is literature on it including information put out by us. Apparently it is something you missed reading. None of us can know everything. I know people who have dealt with Ken Friel and I have heard nothing but good things about him regarding his firearms knowledge and competency. I truly expect that the work done at the NAA custom shop is everything advertised. NAA enthusiasts have their following. We have ours. I do not presume to say our customers are smarter or better informed than NAA customers. Some people like Coke, some people like Pepsi. I apologize for the intrusion here but I think the chamber statement needed to be addressed.
Hiflight Message Board MemberUsername: HiflightPost Number: 9Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 07:44 pm:
Lack of manners, tact, and respect for another individual's point of view will always remove that individual from my consideration of their services regardless of their "Expertize". Quality of workmanship, no matter how expert cannot, to me, offset such exhibitions of public arrogance and lack of tolerance directed towards other members of a close community such as we enjoy.
Nicole Message Board MemberUsername: NicolePost Number: 648Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 09:41 pm:
I like both NAA and Seecamp, for different reasons. I can't afford anyones custom work. I drink Mountain Dew and don't care who knows it Back to the original question, what to do with a heavy trigger without spending more money. Get used to it. I promise I didn't say that to be flip. I said it because that's what I did with my 3 Guardians. Sure, I wish the triggers were lighter, they aren't. I now find that I am better on a DA trigger pull than a SA trigger pull. I guess I concentrate more. Also, I'm more comfortable carrying a heavy trigger. I did, however, just order a single action XD 45acp so maybe I'll get used to a lighter trigger as well. Seriously, build some muscle and muscle memory in that trigger finger and it will be less of an issue.
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 37Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Friday, February 24, 2006 - 09:56 pm:
Teddy_jacobson - I now am having doubts as to why I had my "Laps in Reason"; I consider myself an honorable man and want to extend an appology for "MY lack of class". Please except it for what it is, and I would gladly knock it off right here and now. I am mainly quite sincere & and offer a "cyber handshake" in a show of good faith & truce and promise not to "Squeeze you too hard" - I Don't want to hurt the hand of a "The worlds Premier Firearms Craftsman of course!" (I'll admit I really want to barf right now, but I'm attempting w/ all my might to regain a lil' dignity; thus I'll refrain, & restrain as best I can!) TJ - I STILL think you're an unparralleled egotist, but maybe thats just me... (See, no 4 letter words..!) Also, as a side note, what sights was I talking about^^?; I have non on my NAA's..?!) RJ, and everyone up there^^, you all (As do I..) have, and have made good points, Hiflight says alot, and Nicole got us back on track; hopefully T_j can let this stuff go for a bit; how's 'bout it? Have a nice day, (erh) - Eric Howland - GA.
Peter Message Board MemberUsername: PeterPost Number: 6Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 07:55 am:
I agree with Nicole that it's possible to get used to the heavy trigger pull. I keep a large spring clamp (the kind used in wood working) in my car and squeeze it repeatedly while I'm driving. This has increased my hand strength, which in turn helps compensate for the trigger pull. Also, about 100 squeezes of the trigger a day (with a snap cap in place) has helped my trigger control and seems to have smoothed out the action of the gun a little. Just my two cents worth.
Sassi Message Board MemberUsername: SassiPost Number: 24Registered: 12-2004
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 08:08 am:
I have truly enjoyed the messages above. I sat here learned and laughed throughout the entire dialogue. It sounded like a bunch of old wise talented gunmen sitting around a camp fire BSing on what gun was best and who had the best set of "files" to make em better. The dialogues also settled my interest in small semi's. I was seriously considering buying the 32 NAA model. If NAA and others know how to fix or improve these problems and just "look the other way" cause it might possibly cost us a few more bucks, thus causing new buyers to have to go to these "knowledge experts" to get a gun that shoots smooth, then that tells me that maybe I just ought to stick with the wheel guns.
Nicole Message Board MemberUsername: NicolePost Number: 651Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 08:22 am:
Sassi, I have the 32NAA version. I love it. Shoots great, feeds beautifully, loads of fun, and really easy to field strip. When I first got it, I sometimes had to put my weak hand finger on top of my trigger finger to get the thing to fire! I don't have to do that anymore. I don't even notice it unless I'm firing it alot, certainly more than I would be in a defensive situation. I just didn't carry it till I got used to it.
Teddy_jacobson Message Board MemberUsername: Teddy_jacobsonPost Number: 54Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 09:05 am:
Thanks for all you nice comments. I will no longer have any more to say about improving your handguns regardless of who makes them. I have tried to point out the very obvious flaws that I can easily see and most of you can not. I HAVE TRIED TO HELP YOU FOR THE LAST TIME. Every factory knows they have degraded their product for Benjamin Franklin. Its really none of my business because I only do limited work at this time for select people that go in harms way. ALWAYS REMEMBER THERE IS NO EJECTOR IN THESE SEMI AUTO MOUSE GUNS. As for the Seecamp being gouged in the chamber, I certainly know about why they do it but its done very crudly and by an amateur armorer. I have worked on about 35 to 50 Seecamps, I used to own one but if you saw the internals from my eyes you would under stand, you do not know what quality is, that is not your fault. We live in a world of throw away products and not many care anymore. Soon you will be able to buy your favorite WINCHESTER that is MADE IN CHINA. I hope you continue to buy your favorite Guardian and or Seecamp. I certainly do not care and I will only help those that are decent and honorable. Point of Note to clarify, I think I originally sent Carl information on MICARTA for grips that comes in all colors. It does not matter, they as all people will do what they want. All companies lose when ever a gun is returned for repair on warranty, shipping costs are sky high... when they do this their profits go down to nothing. I will no longer post here and try to educate you, those that know me can call me and they already know I will always help them as I did in the past. Most of you do not want to learn because you not only want to justify your purchase and the money you have already spend. To learn more you will have to read my bloggers. It seems those that complain about refining the cost of a Guardian sure seem to find enough money to buy two or three Guardians. I will go a step further and say we have already lost the industrial power of our country and the very worst is yet to come. Have a good day. Teddy Jacobson - Pistolsmith
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 40Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 09:28 am:
"Rock-a-Bye Teddy..." (erh)
Nicole Message Board MemberUsername: NicolePost Number: 652Registered: 08-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 09:58 am:
Teddy, I have always enjoyed reading your information and I read your blog when I have time. I have been trying to re-find where you wrote about sealing primers. I really wish the factory would have listened to you about colored grips, I believe I asked for some in the past. I am not mechanically- inclined and am here to learn. I also have not complained about the cost of refining a Guardian, I'm sure it is well worth it. I would love to have you work on one of mine but in my case the student loan people insist on getting their money every month. I only buy more guns when I find a very good deal or see a paticular need for a different gun. For instance, higher capacity or dedicated car gun. I also agree that it is ridiculous that America can't or won't make the world's best products, and it will get worse. I hear China is about ready to hit America with cheap, well-made cars! At any rate, I still read your blogs and hope you don't really leave here. Nicole
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 284Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 10:26 am:
Sassi Don't give up , the Curtain of Negativity here is about over, if the more recent post of TJ holds true. NAA, and the LWS company offer wonderful products. Both give excellent after sale service ! There are very knowledgeable people at NAA, as well as LW Seecamp. You were being fed some prejudiced information here. Any firearm manufactured, is a conglomeration of mechanical principals. Most of the time, it is nothing really new, all just re-application of proven methods, sometimes the Manufacturers just more "Right" than others. The LW Seecamp and the North American Arms products are a good examples...
Georgeh Message Board MemberUsername: GeorgehPost Number: 2485Registered: 01-2003
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 11:52 am:
I had Teddy work on two of my guns. I found his work to be truly world class. Why can't we share our opinions without getting nasty. I don't want to see anyone stop posting.
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 41Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 12:42 pm:
Georgeh - I have to concur... Teddy: - I promise that I am now 100% "Over -It..; and didn't intend for all this, particularly running "ANYONE off" the board. Please except my cincere appologies and lets get back to reality. If for nothing more than the sake of the OTHERS on this board that WANT your input; by all means please don't stop giving them your valuable info; just please TRY to "Tune Down" just a little if able; I realize it's not my place to ask that of you, but I think it's only fair to try! I think we all realize that this was more than just a bit inflated, rediculous, and out-of-hand! Keep on keepin' on.. Have a nice day all, erh
Kenneth Message Board MemberUsername: KennethPost Number: 68Registered: 01-2005
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 07:28 pm:
Teddy did his work on my NAA32. When I got it back it was as if he returned to me a different pistol. The action is smooth, tight and at least half of the original pull. As I stated in a post just after receiving my pistol back from Teddy; he's more an artist than a smith. That said, I must comment on Erh's nastiness. The flamming, foul, invectives launched by Erh are nothing less than repulsive and I do not beleive that it was a "momentary lapse of manners" but rather how the poster is. Teddy Jacobson has been a valued poster her for some years and I would certainly hope Teddy continues to post here and is not put off by a noisome fool who chooses to insult someone who knows more than he.
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 43Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Saturday, February 25, 2006 - 09:53 pm:
Kenneth - If I were in your shoes I'm certain I'd feel, and say the same. I for one, still DO NOT HAVE TO LIKE ANYONE I THINK IS A JERK! (Not directed at you..!) That having been said; you, and if there ARE any others out their in addition to you, that have been offended do not/ did not deserve to be subjected to my rantings... Sorry about that; truly! I hope in time you, and everyone else who may agree with your point of view, come to know me as just some other American "Shmuck" that has his God & Nations given right to his opinions and expressions, not to mention the right to have a bad day or three... No one deserves a bunch of "Crud" on ANY of these MOST enjoyable Boards, even the one's "Slingin' it by the Bucket full!" You all out there can likely admit (at least to yourselves) that EVERYONE gets nasty from time to time. The difference is, that some people can honestly back up & re-group... I hope to prove myself as one of the latter. Again, and FOR THE LAST TIME! Teddy_jacobson - I may not like the way you represent or elevate yourself, but for the sake of those that give a hoot what you have to say; "Say what you will; some folks out there can apparently swallow it up whole; all the power to 'em and to you as well..! So don't fall into the ranks of the poor "Shmucks" that CAN'T regroup... and get back to good stuff. Peace to you, and all of yours. I, along with SO many others "Fought for your right to do this, or that, or whatever you choose, so enjoy it for Pete's sake..! Have a nice day, (erh)
G34 Message Board MemberUsername: G34Post Number: 1Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 01:19 am:
Wow, I make my first return trip here after a couple years away, just thinking about picking up a guardian soon, so I thought I'd check in and see what's new. The first post I read tells me nothing has changed here, I can't believe some of you are giving a living legend like TJ a hard time. You should feel priveleged having him here, instead you cuss him and run him off. My first post will be my last, Teddy you just keep doing your thing, some folks out here appreciate you buddy!!!! (sometimes a bit of arrogance goes along with brilliance!). Some of you REALLY ought to feel ashamed. BTW, now ya'll can rip me all you want and feel assured I won't even be back to read it, I have more important things to occupy my time than this childish B.S.
Kevin_quinlan Message Board MemberUsername: Kevin_quinlanPost Number: 45Registered: 12-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 05:56 am:
Hi ERH, See if you say "Sorry for the rantings" at that point you STOP RANTING. You however continue to babble. If it will make you happy, and get you to shut the F up, we will all agree that ERH is: #1 A genius. #2 Invented the wheel. #3 Forgot more about firearms than John Moses Browning ever knew. #4 The only reason NOBODY knows his work is because of his modesty. Happy now? Kevin
Sopsax Message Board MemberUsername: SopsaxPost Number: 220Registered: 03-2005
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 10:44 am:
ERH: I tried to send you a private message (civil AND supportive) but your profile said you did not accept private messages. sopsax
Rhedley Message Board MemberUsername: RhedleyPost Number: 285Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 10:53 am:
To understand what this back and forth fuss is all about you must go back to Erh's post on 2/20 and READ. "Erh" had nothing but praise for "North American Arms" and their Custom Shop.. Then read "Teddy's post" of 2/21.....this post is the problem here. A few members here, fail to see the self proclaimed " World Famous Pistolsmith '' as being abusive of the Host of this message board, which is "North American Arms", and to anyone that thinks NAA does a great job in the "Custom shop". I feel the " World Famous Pistolsmith '' should work on his "People skills", and allow others to have an opinion with out being insulted here on this open message board. Having said this, I would like to add, the " World Famous Pistolsmith '' most likely does very good "Trigger Work." I have not denied this. But I think I shall never know first hand, of his skills, for reasons you can possibly imagine.
Erh Message Board MemberUsername: ErhPost Number: 44Registered: 01-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 11:42 am:
It's true.. And thank you for your "level-headedness" Mr. Hedley and you others out there that get it..! Best regards, (erh)
Hiflight Message Board MemberUsername: HiflightPost Number: 10Registered: 02-2006
Posted on Sunday, February 26, 2006 - 11:44 am:
Well-spoken, Rhedley!
